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The result of the move request was: Moved. Particularly when we get to some names, like social structure of the United States will be better than American social structure. Might as well standardize here now.

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No further edits should be made to this discussion. Most of the article's content is about historical social structure in China. The latter part of the article deals with the history of social classes in modern China Qing and Red , but there is no content on contemporary China. The best title based on the current content might be along the lines of The history of Chinese social structure , no? Namespaces Article Talk. Views Read Edit New section View history. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. However, a major copy edit was inappropriate at that time because of the issues specified below, or the other tags now found on this article.

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Eg the four classes in early Imperial society - the first were literati, some of them may also have been landlords, but to describe them thus per se is a backward projection from Maoist doctrine. This also inspires the anachronism of equating Imperial China with feudal China.


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Zhou China before the First Emperor was feudal, but other dynasties exhibited neo-feudal features in different ways at different places and times under different local and historic pressures, which you can't lump together in a single Maoist-defiend box. You really can't excuse a terrible article like this none of it sourced when there is such a huge literature from Gernet to Granet to Mote to Spence and hundreds of others including those listed above. A disgrace to Wikipedia.

It's a fscintationg and important subject but a vast one, mere brevity is no virtue here. Someone needs to thoroughly re-work it from scratch, or else it should be scrapped.


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    Nevertheless, the format of those statistical references isn't correct. It says nothing except the title and page number. The page numbers are not cited in the article. I don't know if the original version had these page numbers—I looked but couldn't find it in the history. A lot of people have complained about the quality of this article on this page, but few have taken the time to repair it namely the referencing.

    I'm just not knowledgeable enough about the subject to fix it. Because that statement had a citation, I thought it prudent to at least talk about it here before removing. The result of the move request was: Moved. Particularly when we get to some names, like social structure of the United States will be better than American social structure. Might as well standardize here now.

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